Behind the Rights Protection of P5 Car Owners in Tucki: Urban Intelligent Driving Technology Skips HD Maps, and the contradiction between the two sides is difficult to solve.

"I went to estimate the price. The P5 bought in 2021 can only sell for 120,000 yuan, and fall in price is nearly 40%." On November 6, Mr. Huang, the owner of Shanghai, told Shell Finance reporter. The reason why he wants to sell P5, Mr. Huang thinks that the propaganda of the manufacturer is inconsistent with the reality, which has triggered some car owners to defend their rights.

On October 24th, Xpeng Motors Science and Technology Day, He Xiaopeng showed a series of new technologies in Xpeng Motors. Including Tianqi intelligent cockpit, more powerful assisted driving ability and so on. According to the plan, 50 cities will land in Xpeng Motors for assisted driving this year.

However, after the event, hundreds of Tucki P5 car owners published a joint letter to Xpeng Motors. These old car owners said that they had bought P5 models equipped with lidar before, but they were not included in the smart driving plan to open 50 cities this year, and the overall technology update speed was also very slow. I hope Xpeng Motors will give compensation.

Tucki P5. source map

On November 3rd, in response to hundreds of P5 old car owners’ rights protection incidents, Xpeng Motors issued "Notes on Upgrading NGP Function in P5 City of Tucki". In addition to various upgrading promises, Xpeng Motors offered car owners the rights and interests of smart driving priority vouchers worth 20,000 yuan.

Mr. Huang told the reporter, "It may be better to sell the vouchers, but 20,000 yuan vouchers to sell idle fish is 18,000 yuan. Generally speaking, it is not particularly satisfactory. Talk is better than nothing. "

According to Mr. Huang, among the P5 car owners’ rights protection groups, many car owners said that they would continue to protect their rights.

The coverage of high-level assisted driving function in P5 city is slow, and some car owners accuse it of "false propaganda".

In September, 2021, Xpeng Motors listed Tucki’s third product, Tucki P5, which was equipped with laser radar and CNGP, and the price range reached 157,900-223,900 yuan. Some car owners said that they spent an extra 25,000 to 35,000 yuan just because they took a fancy to the CNGP function.

The ideal is full and the reality is very skinny. Since its listing, Tucki P5 has only completed the opening of five cities in terms of urban advanced assisted driving. This has caused dissatisfaction among some P5 car owners.

On October 24th, Xpeng Motors Science and Technology Day, the enterprise announced that it would open 50 cities’ smart driving during the year, and 200 cities would be opened in 2024. But these openings do not include car owners who bought the old P5 lidar. Due to the huge difference between the publicity and the final presentation, some Tucki P5 car owners chose to publish a "joint letter" publicly.

Part of the joint letter

According to the contents of the joint letter, the car owners think that the Tucki P5 no longer supports high-end chips+lidar except that they are not included in the urban assisted driving update and the cockpit system does not support the update; The reason why the Tianji system can’t be updated is because of the "vertical screen", which means that P5 car owners who bought cars for "smart driving" may become "abandoned children".

In response to this incident, Xpeng Motors gave a solution of 20,000 yuan car purchase vouchers. The scheme shows that the purchase of Tucki G6, P7i, G9 and X9 vehicles equipped with XNGP intelligent assisted driving system can be offset at the time of first purchase, additional purchase and replacement, and this right can be used by car buyers designated by the owner.

Xpeng Motors responded.

In addition, the official of Xpeng Motors also issued a document explaining that the city NGP in P5, Tucki is an urban intelligent driving assistance function that strongly relies on high-precision map technology. The opening of this function is affected by many factors, which not only requires a long research and development process of collection, production, verification and multiple tests to improve the reliability and safety of use, but also requires the approval of city map information according to specifications, which makes it difficult to achieve rapid coverage of different cities.

In 2024, the enterprise expects to gradually launch the functions of intelligent scene, steering assistance, sentry mode optimization, map optimization, Netease cloud music access, instrument display lyrics and so on for P5 models.

The development of the intelligent driving system skips the high-precision map, and the industry is facing "the pain of change"

Zhang Xiang, a visiting professor at Huanghe Institute of Science and Technology, said that the controversy caused by P5 in Tucki is not an isolated case, but a "pain" that must be passed on the road of rapid development and reform of intelligent driving.

Previously, car companies and smart driving companies chose smart driving routes, relying more on the development of high-precision maps, fully recognizing road information through high-precision maps, avoiding the shortcomings of weak algorithms under pure vision (radar+camera) solutions, and improving safety.

However, after a period of development, the policy problems and updating problems of high-precision maps have become "obstacles".

Because it is difficult to rely on high-precision maps to improve the ability of intelligent driving, car companies and intelligent driving companies have to choose to skip high-precision maps and gradually develop intelligent driving without maps. In the past, the P5 model was built on the basis of high-precision maps. With the gradual landing of the new system, it is difficult to synchronize the old system.

Zhang Xiang mentioned that in 2021, P5, Extreme Fox Alpha S and other products were once representative models in the era of high-precision maps, but because high-precision maps involve sensitive landmarks, there is uncertainty in open applications. It is reported that in February, March and August, 2022, the Ministry of Natural Resources announced the latest results of Grade A surveying and mapping qualification re-examination and renewal in three batches. Before the re-examination, there were 31 units, 12 of which had not been audited. The reduction of this figure also intuitively shows the trend of current policy tightening.

According to public information, important map suppliers such as NavInfo and Gaode are gradually weakening the high-precision map scheme. Due to the need to collect a lot of extremely accurate data, high-precision maps are basically seasonal. Car companies hope that map vendors can update by the day, and cooperative map manufacturers can’t bear such cost pressure.

At the same time, the hardware perception ability is improved, and the graph-less scheme has become a new consensus in the industry. Without high-precision maps, vehicles can also achieve high-order assisted driving in cities with the support of strong hardware perception and algorithm capabilities.

Huawei’s managing director, terminal BG CEO and chairman of BU, a smart car solution, also mentioned during the year that "domestic roads are changing every day, and if we rely on high-precision maps, there is no way to popularize them. In addition, the production cost of high-precision maps is very high, and it is very difficult to collect data from all over the country. Sometimes even after collecting data today, it will be changed tomorrow. "

Zhang Xiang mentioned that in the general trend, car companies and smart drivers are shifting from maps to no maps. But at the same time of rapid development, it is necessary for enterprises to appease consumers who once trusted enterprises and spent real money to support them.

Beijing News Shell Financial Reporter Bai Haotian

Editor Xu Chao

Proofread Liu Baoqing